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 on: December 11, 2017, 08:57:58 PM 
Started by Masters - Last post by Masters
Daniel McGirr
11 hrs · Overland Park ·
Wow...the Context thickens.
Why would they "spit" in his face? It's connected to envy and they believed he was an outcast and a holder of the Evil eye....this is getting kerazy how much we do not even know about social context.
Matthew 26
57 And those who had seized יהושע led Him away to Qayapha the high priest, where the scribes and the elders were gathered together.
58 But Kĕpha followed Him at a distance to the courtyard of the high priest, and he went in and sat with the servants to see the end.
59 And the chief priests, and the elders, and all the council were seeking false witness against יהושע to put Him to death,
60 but found none. Although many false witnesses came forward, they found none. But at last two false witnesses came forward,
61 and said, “This one said, ‘I am able to destroy the Dwelling Place of Elohim and to build it in three days.’ ”
62 And the high priest stood up and said to Him, “Have You no answer to make? What do these witness against You?”
63 But יהושע remained silent. So the high priest said to Him, “I put You to oath, by the living Elohim that You say to us if You are the Messiah, the Son of Elohim.”
64 יהושע said to him, “You have said it. Besides I say to you, from now on you shall see the Son of Aḏam sitting at the right hand of the Power, Psa. 110:1 and coming on the clouds of the heaven.” Dan. 7:13.
65 Then the high priest tore his garments, saying, “He has blasphemed! Why do we need any more witnesses? See, now you have heard His blasphemy!
66 “What do you think?” And they answering, said, “He is liable to death.”
67 Then they spat in His face and beat Him, and others slapped Him,
68 saying, “Prophesy to us, Messiah! Who is the one who struck You?”

 2 
 on: December 09, 2017, 03:58:33 PM 
Started by Masters - Last post by Masters
Dinah Dye
1 hr ·
You should know, that even though President Trump officially recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, our State Department has said, "Jerusalem, Israel" would not be listed as a place that exists on official documents. That means: "Jerusalem, Israel" will not appear on passports, maps, and other official documents. It also means that Americans born in Jerusalem can't list Israel as their birth nation, as it is still not recognized as being located in Israel. State Department officials also maintain that details like the exact location of Jerusalem is still up for debate. (From the Washington Beacon)

Time for Tillerson to go and every single Obama holdover. Maybe we don't even need a State Department - what good are they if the exact location of Jerusalem is up for debate.

 3 
 on: December 09, 2017, 02:55:16 PM 
Started by Masters - Last post by Masters
Daniel McGirr added 2 new photos.
Yesterday at 9:06am · Overland Park ·
Status and Humility.
In a world and society such as the 1st Century, as well as our own, one of which that is more concerned with status and honor than that of humility and servant hood..these types of verses take on a completely new context.
Rom 12:3 For I say, through the favour which has been given to me, to everyone who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he should think, but to think soberly, as Elohim has given to each a measure of belief.
The people of the ancient world were enveloped in their status within society. You had to maintain your ascribed status at all costs, no matter the rank. I am seeing more and more it is the same with us today. We achieve or acquire some "status" , some "honor" among our peers and we do all that we possibly can to maintain that honor status at all costs. This is why humility is so prevalent in the New Testament writings. If we claim to be wanting a walk like Maschiach, then we cannot ignore the facts...yes facts, that He did care about His Status of Honor in Adonai's Kingdom, but left it to restore my Status back into the Kingdom.
You see religion, no matter whether it is Judaism, Christianity, Hebrew Roots, Messianic believer title or whatever, if you control the system, if you dictate the rules to the "status quo" (pun intended) , then you indeed control who is considered honorable, who is considered of elite class, and those whom you or I dictate that are below us.
This is not humility. This is not the will of the Creator.
We must stop thinking so highly of ourselves. Your or my position as a Teacher, as Congregational Leader, as a Worship leader, as a Youth Pastor, as a Spiritual Author, as a Scholar, all titles and statuses are void if we do not walk humbly before our King.
This is the meaning of humility. Backed by integrity. Yes we will fall, but it is about getting back up, asking for forgivness and getting back to working for the right Kingdom.
Status in any earthly kingdom has been the focus for thousands of years and still continues. However a huge element to the Gospel is that Adonai sent Yeshua to give all status and honor in HIS Kingdom to those who seek to be servants.
Php 2:1 If, then, there is any encouragement in Messiah, if any comfort of love, if any fellowship of Spirit, if any affection and compassion,
Php 2:2 make my joy complete by being of the same mind, having the same love, one in being and of purpose,
Php 2:3 doing none at all through selfishness or self-conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves.
Php 2:4 Each one should look out not only for his own interests, but also for the interests of others.
Php 2:5 For, let this mind be in you which was also in Messiah יהושע,
Php 2:6 who, being in the form of Elohim, did not regard equality with Elohim a matter to be grasped,
Php 2:7 but emptied Himself, taking the form of a servant, and came to be in the likeness of men.
Php 2:8 And having been found in fashion as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient unto death, death even of a stake.
Php 2:9 Elohim, therefore, has highly exalted Him and given Him the Name which is above every name,
Php 2:10 that at the Name of יהושע every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth,
Php 2:11 and every tongue should confess that יהושע Messiah is Master, to the esteem of Elohim the Father.
Php 2:12 So that, my beloved, as you always obeyed – not only in my presence, but now much rather in my absence – work out your own deliverance with fear and trembling,
Php 2:13 for it is Elohim who is working in you both to desire and to work for His good pleasure.
Php 2:14 Do all matters without grumblings and disputings,
Php 2:15 in order that you be blameless and faultless, children of Elohim without blemish in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation, among whom you shine as lights in the world,
Php 2:16 holding on to the Word of life, for a boast to me in the day of Messiah, that I have not run in vain or laboured in vain.

 4 
 on: December 09, 2017, 11:01:04 AM 
Started by dumbrod - Last post by dumbrod
I watched this movie on youtube last night and it was excellent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYD3o3K2gmM&list=PLway30SjbxiGvj4fyin6Yb-gvuNKxz0w6

 5 
 on: December 07, 2017, 07:04:35 AM 
Started by Masters - Last post by Masters
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Rico Cortes
8 hrs ·
In all my years in martial arts and self defense. I learned that no matter how much time goes by or even if I became better than my teachers. I would never minimized, belittle or disrespect those teachers who share their understanding for me to reach my goals. There is more loyalty in the secular society than people in the kingdom.
WHY DO PEOPLE BECOME SO DISRESPECTFUL TO THOSE WHO WERE THEIR TEACHERS?
If you move on to another level in your understanding please be grateful for those who took the time to help you in your beginnings.
I understand people move on and that is ok but be kind and respectful. It is the classy thing to do

 6 
 on: December 06, 2017, 03:05:57 PM 
Started by Masters - Last post by Masters
Eze 43:10 You, son of man, show the house to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities; and let them measure the pattern.

11 If they be ashamed of all that they have done, make known to them the form of the house, and the fashion of it, and the exits of it, and the entrances of it, and all the forms of it, and all the ordinances of it, and all the forms of it, and all the laws of it; and write it in their sight; that they may keep the whole form of it, and all the ordinances of it, and do them.

12 This is the law of the house: on the top of the mountain the whole limit of it round about shall be most holy. Behold, this is the law of the house.

 7 
 on: December 05, 2017, 07:07:42 AM 
Started by Masters - Last post by Masters
David’s Prayer
18 Then King David went in and sat before the Lord, and he said:

“Who am I, Sovereign Lord, and what is my family, that you have brought me this far? 19 And as if this were not enough in your sight, Sovereign Lord, you have also spoken about the future of the house of your servant—and this decree, Sovereign Lord, is for a mere human![c]

20 “What more can David say to you? For you know your servant, Sovereign Lord. 21 For the sake of your word and according to your will, you have done this great thing and made it known to your servant.

22 “How great you are, Sovereign Lord! There is no one like you, and there is no God but you, as we have heard with our own ears. 23 And who is like your people Israel—the one nation on earth that God went out to redeem as a people for himself, and to make a name for himself, and to perform great and awesome wonders by driving out nations and their gods from before your people, whom you redeemed from Egypt?[d] 24 You have established your people Israel as your very own forever, and you, Lord, have become their God.

25 “And now, Lord God, keep forever the promise you have made concerning your servant and his house. Do as you promised, 26 so that your name will be great forever. Then people will say, ‘The Lord Almighty is God over Israel!’ And the house of your servant David will be established in your sight.

27 “Lord Almighty, God of Israel, you have revealed this to your servant, saying, ‘I will build a house for you.’ So your servant has found courage to pray this prayer to you. 28 Sovereign Lord, you are God! Your covenant is trustworthy, and you have promised these good things to your servant. 29 Now be pleased to bless the house of your servant, that it may continue forever in your sight; for you, Sovereign Lord, have spoken, and with your blessing the house of your servant will be blessed forever

 8 
 on: December 03, 2017, 07:46:11 AM 
Started by Masters - Last post by Masters
Daniel McGirr
13 mins · Shawnee ·
Yeshua and Hanukkah.
As we come closer to the beginning of Hanukkah,we will see many discussing these verses of John 10. I wold to propose some context as to why the Jews were so angry as Yeshua was talking at the Temple during Hanukkah.
Joh 10:23 And יהושע was walking in the Set-apart Place, in the porch of Shelomoh.
Joh 10:24 So the Yehuḏim surrounded Him and said to Him, “How long do You keep us in suspense? If You are the Messiah, say to us plainly.”
Joh 10:25 יהושע answered them, “I have told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father’s Name, they bear witness concerning Me.
Joh 10:26 “But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you.
Joh 10:27 “My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.
Joh 10:28 “And I give them everlasting life, and they shall by no means ever perish, and no one shall snatch them out of My hand.
Joh 10:29 “My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all. And no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand.
Joh 10:30 “I and My Father are one.”
Joh 10:31 Again the Yehuḏim picked up stones to stone Him.
Joh 10:32 יהושע answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. Because of which of these works do you stone Me?”
Joh 10:33 The Yehuḏim answered Him, saying, “We do not stone You for a good work, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself Elohim.”
Joh 10:34 יהושע answered them, “Is it not written in your own Torah, ‘I said, “You are elohim” ’?
Joh 10:35 “If He called them elohim, to whom the word of Elohim came – and it is impossible for the Scripture to be broken –
Joh 10:36 do you say of Him whom the Father set apart and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of Elohim’?
Joh 10:37 “If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me;
Joh 10:38 but if I do, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, so that you know and believe that the Father is in Me, and I in Him.”

Now this is a period of time not too far away from 164-165 and the time in which the Maccabees took back Jerusalem from Antiochus Epiphanes right?
Well remember what Antiochus' name meant in the Greek..."God Manifest"
or son of god.
Check out verse 33 again,
Joh 10:33 The Yehuḏim answered Him, saying, “We do not stone You for a good work, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself Elohim.”
They could not see their need for Yeshua as the Broker to restore their inherited status and honor back that only the True Patron YHWH could give them. They stayed tunnel visioned on the past and only thought another was claiming to be God Manifest.
However Yeshua's works proved that HE was indeed that Mediator, that Broker.
Joh 10:37 “If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me;
Joh 10:38 but if I do, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, so that you know and believe that the Father is in Me, and I in Him.”

 9 
 on: December 03, 2017, 07:17:52 AM 
Started by Masters - Last post by Masters
Daniel McGirr
November 28 at 1:32pm · Overland Park ·
"Envy, the Evil Eye and...Spitting?"

These 3 things are inherently connected not only in the ancient world, but also found in Scripture.
Lemme splain...
Envy and the Evil Eye by themselves are interwoven all throughout ancient cultures including Israel, which is why we see the topic heavily in Scripture. This topic is amazing and I will do an in depth teaching on this as it arises in the Gospel Cycle Project.
But here is a nugget and how these 2 items are attached to spitting.

The evil eye was a real idea in the ancient world and people feared for those in which they believed possessed it. They believed by receiving a glance from someone that it could ultimately effect them in some manner. Here is an excerpt from The New Testament World by Malina..
"Envy thus proceeds from the heart thru the eyes. The usual suspects thought to harbour Evil Eye abilities were family enemies,strangers, outsiders and deviants as well as the physically deformed, disabled and the the BLIND."
All of these people were thought to be envious of all the others that did not suffer the misfortunes that they did. So they were said to have the Evil Eye burning with envy.

Now, ancient peoples believed the eye lurked everywhere, there different rituals in d8fferdnt cultures for warding of its powerful glance. Amulets, a staring eye carved into a wall or floor which served as a mirror to reflect the Evil Eye back onto the pososser.
AND...even when meeting with an epileptic, a lame man or a stranger or a blind man, evil eye effects were thwarted of by....SPITTING!

Mind blown yet?

So what does Yeshua do here in the these verse of Mark 8 to heal this blind man, the so called possessor of the Evil Eye defined by the cultural norm?

He Spits in the Guy's Eyes!!!!!😂🤣

Yeshua always takes the ideas and cultures in which they held and flips them inside out.

22 And he cometh to Bethsaida; and they bring a blind man unto him, and besought him to touch him.

23 And he took the blind man by the hand, and led him out of the town; and when he had spit on his eyes, and put his hands upon him, he asked him if he saw ought.

24 And he looked up, and said, I see men as trees, walking.

25 After that he put his hands again upon his eyes, and made him look up: and he was restored, and saw every man clearly.

26 And he sent him away to his house, saying, Neither go into the town, nor tell it to any in the town.

 10 
 on: December 03, 2017, 01:25:52 AM 
Started by James1:27 - Last post by dumbrod
Well, as I was starting to reply it seemed like we are starting to go in circles and there is no further point in this line of rebuttals about the whore.  You do indeed appear to be missing several of my points and are coming at things in a different way than I am.  It is hard to be dogmatic about prophecy since we can't be for certain and it looks as though neither of us will convince the other, but this last discourse was to answer your challenge that seems obviously there to me while you appeared to think it was entirely absent.  We can, however, continue on the main topic as there are more avenues to explore with the next one being history if I have time to get into it soon.

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